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Monday, August 25, 2025

LeDomduVin: Bordeaux vs Burgundy Series (# 3) - The Eternal Rivalry

 

BORDEAUX vs BURGUNDY
SERIES # 3



Bordeaux vs Burgundy: The Eternal Rivalry!


I recently had an interesting conversation about Bordeaux bashing and the comparison between Bordeaux and Burgundy, which inspired me to create the illustration above and write this post.

We discussed the various problems that both regions have faced over the last decade and attempted to compare them, ultimately trying to dispel the misconception of rivalry between the two.   

Starting with climate change, then delving into administrative, market & economic challenges, and concluding the conversation by exchanging our views and opinions about the region's respective images, reputations, and pricing strategies in today's world.  

In this post, I am retranscribing that discussion, providing further details and facts with my own views, opinions, and perspectives, as I typically do.

Note: Some readers may disagree with my opinions or how I present them in this post, particularly about Bordeaux. However, I am a native of Bordeaux and have been promoting the region's wines through tasting, visiting, buying, selling, serving, and drinking them for over 30 years across three continents. 

Therefore, please read carefully before judging, as I have nothing against Bordeaux and am not trying to be disrespectful; on the contrary, I love Bordeaux and its wines. I aim to present the facts as they are, stating them as accurately as possible. Ultimately, my voice and words are just one among many that have been calling for changes for years, urging Bordeaux to adapt to shifting market conditions, update its image, and find innovative solutions for a more resilient future.      


Climate change and weather patterns


Bordeaux has a milder, more humid maritime climate over a generally flat topography (especially the left bank, as the right bank has some hills and valleys) influenced by the Atlantic Ocean, the Garonne and Dordogne rivers, and the Gironde estuary, which moderates the weather, resulting in mild winters and warm summers, with some heavy rainfall usually in winter and spring. It can also rain during the summer, in the form of light showers or occasional thunderstorms, but rainfall typically decreases from June to August. 

Although Bordeaux usually enjoys beautiful, warm, and dry "Indian Summers," the rain that sometimes occurs during the harvest, typically late September or early October, is the fear of all producers, as light occasional showers may benefit the vineyards and the grapes, but days of rain at that time can also be disastrous. The moderating influence of the ocean, the estuary, and both rivers helps create a consistent, warm climate, which, combined with the topography and the gravelly soils on the Left Bank and clay-rich soils on the Right Bank, is suitable for late-ripening grapes, such as Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Franc, and Merlot. 

On the other hand, with its cooler, continental climate, Burgundy experiences more extreme temperatures, with cold winters and hot summers. The climate is more unpredictable and challenging, often bringing cold winters and the threat of spring frost. Nonetheless, summers tend to be dry and sunny, which is essential since many of Burgundy's most prized vineyards are located on slopes facing east or southeast. This positioning maximizes the morning sun and provides plenty of light for grape ripening, until late afternoon when the sun passes behind the mountain to the west, casting shadows over the vineyards. 

Compared to Bordeaux, Burgundy is characterized by rolling hills and gentle slopes that create a mosaic of diverse vineyard sites and microclimates. Its defining geological feature is a limestone-rich soil, which is a result of ancient marine deposits from a Jurassic-era lagoon, often mixed with marl and clay, contributing a distinctive minerality to the wines. This makes it an ideal region suitable for delicate, early-ripening varieties, such as Pinot Noir and Chardonnay. 
 
In terms of weather patterns, like most regions in France and around the world, both Bordeaux and Burgundy have experienced the accelerating effects of climate change in their own unique ways, particularly over the last decade. In fact, they have experienced them for over 40 years, as the acceleration of these effects occurred at the begining of the 80s, and each decade has been hotter and thus more challenging than the previous one, ever since.

This trend of increasingly warmer decades has been a consistent pattern since the 1980s. The rate of warming has sped up, with the rate for 1981-2020 about 0.4°C per decade (that's +1.2°C in 40 years), compared to earlier periods. The global average temperature has risen significantly over the last decade, with 2011-2020 being the warmest on record, approximately 1.09°C above the 1850-1900 pre-industrial average, according to the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change). 

And for the 2020s, each year has been hotter than the last so far, with 2024 being the hottest year on record (partly due to a strong "El Niño" event). Global temperatures have exceeded the pre-industrial average by approximately 1.55 degrees Celsius, marking the first time this 1.5°C threshold was crossed in a calendar year.

The increasingly unpredictable weather patterns have resulted in more frequent challenges, including frost, hail, storms, rain, floods, and droughts, in both regions. These shifts and conditions, notably higher temperatures, more frequent droughts, and severe heatwaves, disrupt the vine's growth cycle during late spring and summer, resulting in lower yields, premature grape ripening, and/or over-ripening. 

Meanwhile, more frequent hail and rainstorms, as well as floods and high humidity, in spring, summer, and early autumn during harvest time, increase the risk of damaging the vine shoots, lowering yields, and dilution, as well as diseases such as downy mildew. This variability has made it more challenging for winemakers to maintain consistent quality, resulting in increased vineyard work and labor costs, and requiring greater attention and vigilance to protect the harvest.   

These situations also require financial means to cover the costs of machinery, products, and labor, among other expenses, which have increased due to higher demand in recent years, resulting from the higher frequency of these events and putting producers in a dire situation.    

Climate change and changing weather patterns are concerning issues because they directly affect the vineyards. However, Bordeaux and Burgundy also face other challenges, such as administrative, market, and economic issues. 

Let's begin with Bordeaux since it's a region I know better than Burgundy.   





Administrative, Market & Economic challenges


Bordeaux has struggled with declining consumer demand, particularly among younger generations, due to shifts in consumer habits, high prices, and changing financial opportunities. It also suffers from its outdated, traditionalist, and aristocratic image, and has significant issues with its "En Primeur" system and classification. 

Bordeaux "En Primeur" wines are overpriced, stagnant, and disconnected from release prices, leading to reduced demand and a flooded secondary market. Recent vintages have frequently been launched at prices that are too high, disconnected from what consumers are willing to pay. 

This overpricing has caused demand to stagnate, with many wines from recent vintages trading at prices lower than their initial release prices, leading to unplanned unsold wine stocks. As a result, rising storage and borrowing costs put financial pressure on the system, especially when stock remains unsold and loses value while stored. 

Despite some late efforts to lower the release prices for the 2024 vintage, the high release prices of previous vintages, such as recent ones (2021, 2022, and 2023), and the price stagnation or decline in the secondary market, have resulted in wineries and merchants alike still having large stocks of unsold wine. Weak demand and unfavorable global market conditions created a situation where buyers are unwilling to pay high prices for these wines.    

The system's reliance on traditional intermediaries, such as courtiers and négociants, is seen as an outdated, lack of transparency model that creates barriers between producers and consumers, resulting in financial strain and alienating modern consumers. 

The system, which sells wines "en primeur" before they are bottled, has been undermined by the availability of back vintages that are now selling for less than release prices, making consumers wary of buying unfinished wines. 

Other issues include the long wait for delivery, uncertainty about the final wine quality before bottling, and a shift in top producers' preferences for direct-to-consumer sales or subscription models, which challenge the traditional model's long-term viability.  

Bordeaux classification problems stem from the 1855 classification's static nature, which fails to account for over 170 years of evolving quality, winemaking, vineyard management, and ownership changes, leading to a disconnect between official status and current quality. Key issues include outdated rankings, the omission of Right Bank wines, market distortions where status and prices outweigh merit and even quality, confusion caused by younger and more dynamic classifications such as those in Saint-Émilion, and controversies surrounding the rankings, demotions, and withdrawals from the system. 

The 1855 classification has remained largely unchanged since its creation, despite significant advancements in winemaking, vineyard management, and shifts in estate ownership, quality, and size over the past 170 years. Many estates have significantly improved their quality, yet their classification has remained the same, while some classified estates may have declined relative to non-classified ones. 

The 1855 classification also excluded Right Bank wines, such as those from St-Emilion, and other wine regions from Bordeaux. The staticity of this classification system creates market confusion and leads to status mattering more than the actual wine quality, causing price distortions. 

Additionally, wine styles in 1855 were quite different from those today, featuring lower alcohol levels and less tannic wines. Bordeaux wine's alcohol content has increased from traditionally lower levels, around 12-12.5%, to modern averages closer to 14%. 

This trend has been gradually driven by various factors, including rising global temperatures—especially since the mid-1980s, around 1985 and 1989—leading to increased grape ripeness and higher sugar content. It has also been influenced by changes in winemaking techniques, vineyard and cellar management, and consumer tastes shaped by influential wine critics, which drove demand for more powerful wines and encouraged growers to pursue higher alcohol levels, longer oak ageing period, and the use of more toasted new oak barrels (a trend coming from the US in force in the 80s and 90s). 

This trend also introduced or further developed the concept of second and third labels, as well as the second and third wines made from grapes grown on younger vines or from vineyard sections that didn’t quite meet the standards of the Grand Vin, but still received the same meticulous care and winemaking process. 

This allowed the château to enhance the quality, complexity, and aging potential of the Grand Vin, while offering wines of similar quality that were less complex and more suitable for early drinking. This created options for wines at different price points and quality levels. This practice, still used today, also helped generate revenue to support the estate while waiting for the release of the Grand Vin.

For example, Château Latour created its second wine, "Les Forts de Latour," in 1966, and its third wine, "Pauillac" de Latour, in 1989 (or 1990, depending on the source).         

Moreover, the classification is outdated, as many estates have changed hands and vineyard sizes have increased dramatically since 1855. Some small estates have been merged into larger ones, while others have been acquired by wealthy individuals and large corporations. Although these mergers aimed to create larger, more economically viable properties, improve production capabilities, enhance reputation, and diversify operations for greater financial and social success, the outcomes often varied, impacting, in some cases, both the quality and consistency of the wines, despite overall improvements in production. 

As for the other classifications, while newer, the Graves Classification, established in 1953, revised in 1959, and refined by the creation of the Pessac-Leognan appellation in 1987, offers no quality distinction, listing all classified estates with the same status despite inherent quality variations. 

The Saint-Émilion classification, established in 1955 and revised in 1958, is periodically reassessed roughly every 10 years. The list was updated in 1969, 1986, 1996, 2006, 2012, and 2022. However, it has faced issues with a confusing A/B rating system and controversy over rankings, demotions, legal challenges, and even withdrawals by top estates, like Château Cheval Blanc and Ausone in 2021, followed by Angelus in 2022, due to disagreements with the system, which they felt had become a source of conflict and instability instead of progress. 

Some estates, with strong brand recognition, no longer rely on official classifications, further weakening the system's relevance. For example, Château Lafleur announced just a few days ago that it had left the Bordeaux Appellation System and revoked its status as a Pomerol and Bordeaux wine, selling all six of its labels as Vin de France from the 2025 vintage onwards. This move responds to the accelerating impacts of climate change and the increasing restrictions imposed by the Appellation d'Origine Contrôlée/Protégée (AOC/AOP) system, as mandated by the Institut National de l'Origine et de la Qualité (INAO). 

More estates may follow if things don't change and the restrictions are not relaxed in the coming years.  It is too soon to figure out whether they were right to do so. Some take it as a threat to the appellation; others applaud their bold decision to step out. Good or bad thing? Time will tell.    

Additionally, over the past 25 years, the rest of the world has followed suit in producing wines, with more than 80 countries (out of 195 worldwide) now making their own, resulting in overproduction, increased national consumption, and reduced imports from other countries. China, for example, which used to import countless containers of Bordeaux wines in the 2010s, is now relying more on its own wines. The problem is that high demand from markets like China in previous years supported increased Bordeaux release prices for certain vintages, but this is no longer the case.   

Climate change, geopolitical situations, financial crises, global inflation, taxes, tariffs, overproduction, and other factors, such as changes in consumption habits and growing health concerns in the young generations, have led to a global surplus of wine and unsold stocks (in both wineries and merchants' warehouses around the world), weakening the market.   

As a result, facing an excess of wine, some Bordeaux producers have turned to diversifying their crops and offering products like zero- or low-alcohol alternatives, more appealing to a younger audience, to meet demand, or, in the worst cases, have chosen distillation or even uprooting vineyards to control their supply, focus on other crops and avoid having to shut down.  

The uprooting of vineyards in Bordeaux is being carried out in accordance with a French government-funded program aimed at addressing overproduction, declining domestic and international demand, global inflation, high prices, financial priorities, health concerns, and shifting consumer preferences that favor other beverages or simply can no longer afford wine in their monthly expenses. The program offers subsidies to winemakers for removing vines and repurposing the land. This strategic adjustment aims to stabilize the Bordeaux wine market by reducing supply and refocusing on higher-quality production. 

To summarize and conclude, over the past decade, Bordeaux wines have faced significant challenges, including the severe effects of climate change, which have led to volatile vintages and increased production costs. Additionally, there has been a global decline in demand, particularly from China, and an oversupply of red wines resulting from the downturn in domestic and export markets. 

All these factors (cited above) have resulted in falling prices for many wines, market saturation, and even government-funded vineyard uprooting programs aimed at addressing the imbalance between supply and demand. The continuously increasing restrictions imposed by the Appellation d'Origine Contrôlée/Protégée (AOC/AOP) system, as mandated by the Institut National de l'Origine et de la Qualité (INAO), are outdated, too strict, unflexible, and insufficient to address many of the challenges faced by vignerons.  

Therefore, yes, Bordeaux wine is experiencing a period of significant decline, characterized by decreasing sales, falling prices, and a record-low harvest in 2024, caused by disease and uprooting programs. The crisis stems from years of overproduction, resulting in strategic supply cuts and reduced vineyard acreage to combat declining demand, particularly for red wines, as well as shifting consumer preferences. 

Being a Bordeaux native, I have serious concerns about this situation. Although I have spent my 33-year career promoting Bordeaux wines, including both small and large châteaux, I can't help but think the situation is dire and could cause long-term damage to the vignerons, the region's economy, and the wine industry as a whole. In the meantime, I hope for better days ahead. Wishing strength and courage to all Bordeaux vignerons.   



















Now, let's review the administrative, market, and economic challenges Burgundy has faced over the past decade, while comparing them to those of Bordeaux.    


While Burgundy faced challenges with high prices and the perception of artificial scarcity, despite its focus on small-scale luxury, it is not performing as poorly as Bordeaux. In fact, although both regions have encountered difficulties in the global fine wine market, particularly over the past five years (the post-COVID period has been challenging for all wine regions in France and around the world), Burgundy has shown signs of resilience and has even outperformed in recent years due to demand for its unique, rare wines. In contrast, Bordeaux has experienced a decline in market share, as well as fewer en primeur campaigns. 

Although both regions are currently facing a general market slowdown, Burgundy is regarded as a more resilient and desirable market for collectors, especially in the high-end, collectible segment. In a supply and demand-driven market, the limited production of Top Burgundy wines indeed makes it a more valuable investment over time, compared to Bordeaux, which produces larger quantities that can be easily found in the market decades after their release, even for the most sought-after chateaux in excellent vintages, thus limiting the price appreciation over time.  

While some producers only make a few thousand bottles of "Premier Cru" and even fewer of "Grand Cru," more renowned Bordeaux Chateaux, whether classified or not, such as "Petrus," already produce around 30,000 bottles annually from 11.3 hectares. This is relatively small for Bordeaux, but still quite significant compared to Burgundy, where, for example, Domaine de la Romanée-Conti produces approximately 5,000 to 6,000 bottles of Romanée-Conti per year from its 1.8-hectare vineyard. Only the Bordeaux properties nicknamed "garagists", such as "Le Pin", usually produce less than 10,000 bottles per year.  

The Bordeaux region is a significantly larger vineyard area than Burgundy, with larger average property sizes. Bordeaux boasts nearly 110,000 hectares (up to 125,000 hectares depending on the source) of vines and approximately 6100 wine estate owners and growers (+ 33 wine cooperatives regrouping an additional 2500 growers/producers), with a typical estate covering about 17 hectares. These figures reflect the diverse landscape of the region, which encompasses both large, internationally owned companies and smaller, family-owned estates that have been passed down through generations.  

In contrast, Burgundy's vineyard area is significantly smaller, at roughly 25,000 hectares in AOC vineyards (out of a total of 29,500 hectares planted), shared among about 4,000 domaines and cooperatives. In summary, Burgundy's vineyard area is roughly 4.5 times smaller than Bordeaux's, even though it has more than half the number of Bordeaux producers. 

Consequently, the domaines tend to be much smaller too, as 85% of its domaines are under 10 hectares, typically family-owned estates that have been passed down through generations. Compared to Bordeaux, which has a more stable system of inheritance, Burgundy suffered from its vineyards being divided among generations, thus increasing the scarcity of bottles and the prices from the top producers.   

Over the last two centuries, Burgundy properties, particularly vineyards, have been divided among generations primarily due to the Napoleonic Code, which mandated equal inheritance among all children, resulting in the continuous subdivision of land parcels with each passing generation. This law decreed that property must be divided equally among all heirs, breaking from the previous system, where only the eldest son was entitled to inherit.

This practice, which began in the early 1800s following the French Revolution, created the complex, fragmented ownership structure seen today, where even large Grand Cru vineyards, such as Clos de Vougeot, are divided into numerous small, independently owned plots (approximately 50 hectares, or 125 acres, split into over 100 parcels owned by about 80 proprietors).   

Despite what some well-known hyphenated family names on labels might suggest—like Fontaine-Gagnard or Bachelet-Monnot—and the common misconception that marriages between Burgundy heirs are mainly meant to preserve vineyards, as shown in fictional works like the film "Back to Burgundy" (Ce qui nous lie), to address inheritance tax issues and consolidate family holdings, this is not usually the case. 

In reality, the primary challenges to keeping vineyards in the family are inheritance taxes and land fragmentation resulting from Napoleonic inheritance laws, which impose significant financial burdens and create complex legal situations for heirs. 

When family estates are passed down, high inheritance taxes can force heirs to sell all or part of the business to cover the costs, especially if the property's value has increased significantly. The combination of expensive land and the need to pay taxes creates heavy financial pressure on families, sometimes causing them to sell to foreign investors. 

That's why marriage is sometimes seen as a way to link two separate family vineyards, creating a larger, more sustainable estate that's less likely to be sold. By marrying, one heir might gain access to the other family's financial resources, which could then be used to cover the hefty inheritance taxes that might otherwise force the sale of their own family's vineyards. If marriage isn't planned, heirs can agree to manage the property jointly, or one heir can purchase the shares of the others. 

Fortunately, recent changes to French inheritance laws and tax regulations, particularly the higher exemption limit, are helping Burgundy vintners preserve their family vineyards. If the situation becomes truly dire, external investment might be the only option remaining. While sometimes controversial, bringing in outside investors can provide the necessary funds to pay taxes and sustain the business. 



Like Bordeaux, Burgundy has also faced climate change-related challenges over the past decade, including spring frosts and excessive heat, which have led to significantly reduced and fluctuating wine yields. Other issues include supply shortages caused by these low yields, higher costs for new farming techniques to fight climate problems (such as expensive "candles" for frost protection), shifts in market demand for their wines, and the increasing influence of outside investors owning vineyards, which changes the traditional grower-proprietor model. Unfavorable weather conditions, including those driven by a changing climate, have increased disease pressure from problems such as downy mildew in some years. 

All these factors have significantly increased Burgundy's prices over the past decade. Generic Bourgogne has risen by 50-60%, while top-tier Grand Cru wines have doubled or more. This price surge is fueled by consistently low production, strong global demand for Burgundy's reputation and quality, and the scarce supply of wines from highly sought-after "cult" estates. Moreover, compared to Bordeaux, active auction markets and speculative collecting of premium Burgundies have further boosted prices. 
  
In short, Burgundy prices have skyrocketed over the last decade, while those of Bordeaux have plummeted. Yet, as Burgundy wine prices soar, we could be inclined to think that people might return to Bordeaux for better value. A situation that may entertain the illusion of rivalry between them.  

Ironically, even though Bordeaux offers more choices, greater availability, and often better quality than Burgundy in the under €20/bottle range, people still favor Burgundy wines, despite often coming with a higher price tag compared to those from Bordeaux. 

On average, Burgundy bottles tend to be more expensive than those of Bordeaux, especially at the high end, because Burgundy's limited production and high demand drive prices upward. While Bordeaux has many affordable entry-level options, Burgundy offers fewer, and even basic "Bourgogne" wines often cost more than the entry-level Bordeaux equivalents. 

The average price for a bottle of Bordeaux wine is usually around €10-15. However, the price can vary significantly based on factors like the specific château, vintage, vineyard quality, and whether it's a prestigious classified growth or a more accessible appellation.

In an ideal world, the quality and characteristics of a given year (the vintage) should significantly influence its price; however, this is not always the case. For example, the 2021 Bordeaux vintage was characterized by cooler conditions, resulting in wines that are more approachable but of lesser quality than the previous three vintages (2018, 2019, and 2020). 

However, Bordeaux made a major mistake, as the 2021 "En Primeur" release prices were far too high for the quality and expectations of this particular vintage, generally similar to or slightly lower (not even 10% less) than the 2020 vintage, with some estates releasing at the same price point, while others offered price decreases. This resulted in buyer dissatisfaction, poor sales, a loss of credibility, and an additional reason to contribute to the phenomenon of "Bordeaux bashing."   

The pricing strategy is another big difference between the two regions. While Burgundy remains relatively consistent in adjusting its prices depending on the quality of the vintage, production, and overall market demand, Bordeaux consistently increases its prices from one year to the next.

In recent years, Bordeaux en primeur (EP) prices for the 2018-2024 vintages have generally seen increases, criticism, and a disconnect from secondary market prices, with a market trend of prices falling in the years following their release, resulting in the dire situation we know now, with concerned buyers reluctant to buy or invest in Bordeaux any longer.  

In short, as 2018 was a great vintage, the EP release prices were significantly higher than in 2017, which was a much lesser vintage. Then, 2019 was also a great vintage, but not as praised as 2018, showing prices similar to or lower than those of 2018. Then 2020 arrived with a higher quality than 2019, and despite a handful of Châteaux setting the right example by releasing at a slightly lower price point than 2019, the rest of Bordeaux raised its prices again. 2021 was a lesser vintage than the previous three, but Bordeaux still chose not to significantly lower its prices compared to 2020. Then 2022 emerged as a "super vintage", one of these "vintage of the century" (the umpteenth since the beginning of this century), and prices went even higher than those of 2020. 

At this point, due to COVID-19, inflation, the global financial crisis, shifts in consumer habits, and other factors—including the outrageously high EP release prices, which caused buyers' dissatisfaction and confusion—Bordeaux sales and reputation declined sharply, leading to a drop in the market. Bordeaux attempted to significantly lower its prices for the 2023 vintage, which was of lower quality than the 2022 vintage, in an effort to revive the market, but it was unsuccessful. Then, in 2024, prices were even lower than those of 2023, addressing buyer caution and the high market prices of previous years. Still, some châteaux managed to set prices completely disconnected from the quality and expectations of the vintage once again.           

As a visual is worth a thousand words, I have created the table below to illustrate the rollercoaster inconsistency of Bordeaux prices over the past decade (2014-2024). It demonstrates, as mentioned many times before in previous posts on the same subject and about scores and ratings, that Bordeaux's incoherent prices are based solely on the quality and release price of the last vintage(s), without considering the intrinsic quality and value of the wine or the vintage itself. 

I used Mouton Rothschild as an example because it is part of the first growths, which typically show the most inconsistency in their prices. As part of the leading Chateaux (the so-called "locomotive of Bordeaux"), they establish the reference price points everyone else follows. They should therefore set a better example for all the others. But, except for a few rare exceptions, they usually don't.    







Don't you agree? Look at the table again and tell me. Isn't it ridiculous? It is. For example, 2021 was released at 2.9% cheaper than 2020, while 2020 is a far better vintage than 2021, so why is the 2021 so expensive? 2021 was released at a more expensive price than 2018 and at the same price as 2016, which are also considered far better vintages. And why was 2022 released at such a significantly higher price than 2018 and 2020, which are also great vintages? Was it worth it to deserve being sold for roughly 100 Euros more? I don't think so. Bordeaux should not be surprised if buyers are no longer willing to pay these prices. They shot themselves in the foot by doing so.     

I really think that Bordeaux should have reviewed its pricing strategy more than a decade ago and been more consistent over the years by adopting more reasonable "fixed" prices. For example, Mouton Rothschild should set its price between €380 and €420 in regular years (2015, 2018, 2020), then lower it between €310 and €350 in lesser years (2014, 2017, 2021, 2024) (or lower if they feel like it), and increase it between €450 and €480 maximum in greater years (2016, 2022), not go over €500, otherwise, there is no limit?    

I understand that the cost of life and production may have increased significantly since the COVID pandemic in 2020, due to all the challenges and reasons mentioned above (COVID, climate change, inflation, global financial and commercial crises, taxes, tariffs, wars, geopolitical issues, shifts in consumer preferences, health concerns, global overproduction, rules, restrictions, laws, etc.). 

However, despite efforts to substantially lower the prices of the 2023 and 2024 vintages to revive the market and restore buyer confidence in a market already weakened with declining sales over the last 3-4 vintages due to lack of demand and high prices disconnected from what consumers are willing to pay, the top Châteaux should communicate with each other and adopt a better market pricing strategy. They should avoid penalizing buyers with inconsistent prices and instead return to more reasonable pricing if they want Bordeaux to experience a renaissance, change its image, and thrive again, as it once did.     

The main problem with Bordeaux isn't the top 500 Châteaux, the so-called "locomotive of Bordeaux," which are the ones that sell the most and offer wines ranging from €50 to over €500 per bottle (release price), representing Bordeaux's image worldwide. These will always sell one way or another. 

The main issue with Bordeaux is the problems faced by the 6,000+ other Bordeaux estates, producers, and growers, mostly offering wines below €50, with a large majority selling only between €3 and €20. They struggle to sell their wines in the shadow of the famous ones, which tarnish Bordeaux's reputation with high prices and wrong, outdated image and marketing strategies. Most people think Bordeaux wines are expensive, the top ones, yes, but that is not the case for a vast majority of Bordeaux wines.  

As a result, there is an ocean of wines, bottles, and labels that have seen their market shrink both locally and internationally, and their prices fall despite all the climatic, political, financial, and economic challenges they have faced over the last decade.      




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Bordeaux and Burgundy are often seen as rivals. The rivalry between them is a centuries-old debate driven by their different philosophies, grape varieties, and winemaking styles. 

Still, "rivals" is a strong word; I prefer to call them friendly competitors because, in the end, they target similar but slightly different types of consumers, collectors, investors, and markets.      

This friendly competition, often viewed as a reflection of the broader French spirit—Bordeaux's bourgeois influence versus Burgundy's more aristocratic, sensual nature—provides wine enthusiasts with a rich choice between power and finesse, structure and delicacy, drinkability and age potential. 

It's a healthy competition where they observe and challenge each other to improve, despite their differences. Because there are no two wine regions that could be more different than these two.

Their philosophy differs in that Bordeaux focuses on blending grapes to create complexity and structure, with styles such as robust Cabernet Sauvignon-based reds from the Left Bank or Merlot-dominant wines from the Right Bank. Meanwhile, Burgundy emphasizes expressing a single vineyard's unique characteristics through single-varietal wines, highlighting the profound influence of terroir. 

Their grape varieties differ as Bordeaux is known for its bold, complex blends, usually featuring Cabernet Sauvignon and Merlot. At the same time, Burgundy is renowned for its elegant, terroir-driven single-varietal wines, particularly Chardonnay for whites and Pinot Noir for reds. 

Their terroirs differ, as Bordeaux is characterized by more uniform gravelly or clay-rich and limestone soils, with a weather pattern influenced by a maritime climate and the Gironde estuary, as well as the Dordogne and Garonne rivers. While Burgundy is renowned for its diverse soils and climates, with ancient monastic traditions meticulously mapping out vineyard plots to capture the subtle and unique differences of the various terroirs. 

Their cultural representations differ as Bordeaux is often associated with the bourgeois, dirigiste spirit, a more structured, serious approach to winemaking. While Burgundy is more commonly seen as representing a more peasant, sensual, and Rabelaisian aspect of the French soul, it produces aromatic, full-bodied, and sophisticated wines. 

Their classification systems differ, as Bordeaux has a famous classification system that has long been a standard in the wine world. While Burgundy has a classification system rooted in medieval monastic traditions, highlighting individual vineyards, or climats, which are often smaller and more intimately studied. 

In the end it is a friendly competition as While there is a clear and long-standing rivalry, it is largely a friendly one, with both regions representing the pinnacle of French wine production. Wine enthusiasts can find equally compelling reasons to appreciate both the power and structure of Bordeaux and the finesse and subtlety of Burgundy. 

The choice between them often depends on personal preference and the specific occasion. 

As Dany Rolland put it so well in a comment to my post on Facebook: "There are no real rivalries, but rather stories of tastes, opportunities... and these are two regions with historic, renowned vintages, which therefore fuel all the speculations of language and price, comparisons more than choices... if not cultural ones. This is the diversity." 


Let's hope consumers continue to appreciate both, as both Bordeaux and Burgundy deserve to remain leaders and inspirations in the global wine market.    

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The post is currently in progress because it’s a controversial subject, and I want to stay as neutral as possible to avoid offending anyone, as I have worked all my life to promote both in my 33-year career.

However, if you're interested, I've already written two or three posts on this topic in recent years on my blog, as it has been a recurring subject for more than a decade.

I thought that the quote from Richelle Mead's book “The Golden Lily: A Bloodlines Novel” (2012) was remarkably insightful and very "À propos" for this illustration. 😊👍🍷







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Cheers! Santé! 

Dom



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Tuesday, February 18, 2025

LeDomduVin: L'importance de l'avinage de la carafe avant le carafage et/ou la décantation du vin





L'importance de l'avinage de la carafe avant le carafage et/ou la décantation du vin



L'importance de l'avinage de la carafe avant le carafage et/ou la décantation du vin, on en parle?

Je reposte cette vidéo (ci-dessous) que j'avais faite il y a quelques années sur l'importance de l'avinage de la carafe avant carafage ou décantation, car je viens encore de voir une vidéo professionnelle faite par un caviste, où il ne fait pas d'avinage de la carafe avant de procéder au carafage du vin.

Cela peut vous paraître anodin, mais c'est une étape importante du carafage et de la décantation qui est malheureusement souvent oubliée, voir inexistante dans la plupart des vidéos professionnelles et amateurs que j'ai pu voir sur YouTube et ailleurs, au restaurant et même dans les compétitions telles que les meilleurs Sommeliers du monde, par exemple.






Alors que pourtant, c'est une étape essentielle à la bonne réalisation du carafage et de la décantation, qui, de mon temps, était enseignée à l'école hôtelière et réalisée dans tous les bons restaurants, mais qui semble avoir disparue et/ou avoir été oubliée de nos jours.

Pourquoi je la qualifie d'importante et d'essentielle? Car elle permet de nettoyer la carafe de tous résidus potentiellement nuisibles au vin (poussière, eau, sel, détergent ou vinaigre si mal rincer, etc...) et d'imprégner les arômes du vin dans la carafe avant de procéder au carafage ou à la décantation du vin.

C'est une pratique que beaucoup de Sommeliers et autres professionnels du vin ne font pas ou plus, mais qui pourtant me semble logique et indispensable à la bonne préparation d'un vin (ayant besoin d'être carafer ou décanter) avant son service, et que j'aimerais bien voir remise au goût du jour.

Pour ou contre? Dites moi ce que vous en pensez en commentaires.

Voici la video: 






Prenez soin de vous, et surtout, avinez la carafe avant de procéder au carafage ou à la décantation de vos vins. C'est important!

Cheers! Santé!

Dom

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Thursday, August 15, 2024

LeDomduVin: Bubbly foam pattern (froth) on top of the wine in the glass after using Coravin




Bubbly foam pattern (froth) on top of the wine

 in the glass after using Coravin




Have you ever experienced a bubbly foam pattern (froth) on top of the wine in the glass after using Coravin?

If not, know that it may happen; even if your glass is spotlessly clean, it has nothing to do with the wine, and this is usually the reason why.

It is usually due to a slight excess of gas released into the glass before or after pouring the wine. If the wine is frothy at first (like in the picture), you might press the Coravin button too hard or too many times.

You're supposed to tap the button, wait for the wine to stop pouring, tap again, and so on until you've poured your desired amount.

This method is a bit slow, but you're not supposed to hold the button down or quickly press it multiple times while pouring the wine. Otherwise, you will release this excess of gas.

To prevent foam, press the button once before pouring the wine to release the excess gas in the air rather than in the glass; then, you can pour the wine into the glass. It might take some practice before you get used to it and become a pro at using Coravin.

If you always get the frothy pattern, do not panic. The argon gas used in Coravin is inert, colorless, odorless, and nonreactive, so it has no adverse effects on the wine.






And for those who are not familiar with Argon, here are a few facts:

Argon is added to wine to displace air. Because it is denser than air, it settles above the liquid, protecting the wine from souring and oxidation.

This method often preserves open wine and liquid bottles in bars, restaurants, and even barrels in wineries.

Argon does not dissolve in wine and, therefore, provides a long-term blanket of protection for the wine.

As for the time of preservation, Coravin claims to "preserve wine for months", yet from personal experience, it is more likely to be a few weeks, depending on the amount of wine remaining in the bottle, of course (the more wine in the bottle the longer).

Hope you've found this post helpful.

Cheers! Santé!

Dom

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Monday, September 11, 2023

LeDomduVin: Domaine Ponsot Clos de la Roche Cuvée Vieilles Vignes 2002 - The capsule differences






Domaine Ponsot Clos de la Roche Cuvée Vieilles Vignes 2002 - The capsule differences



Laurie Vainio, a talented Sommelier and ex-colleague (as we worked for the same company a few years back), asked me about the capsule's differences between these 2 bottles of Domaine Ponsot Clos de la Roche 2002. 

He sent me these pictures, and as I did not have the answer (and could not find much online), I decided to call  Domaine Ponsot directly. 





They said that both capsules are real, and their difference is: 

The Red capsule corresponds to the first release back in 2004/2005 and other eventual releases before 2007. 

The Brown/Golden capsule corresponds to later releases after 2007, with:

- Prooftag label from 2007 to 2014 (see picture)

- Numeric label (aka e-label) after 2014 

I can not go into more detail to prevent counterfeiters from using them. 

However, I believe this answer from the Domaine is worth sharing among Sommeliers (like Lauri and me) and other wine professionals who may be unaware of this fact. 

And if you did not know, now you know. 😁👍🍷

NB: The change of capsule and label details coincide with Rudy Kurniawan's case, when, in 2008, he consigned about 84 bottles supposedly to be from Domaine Ponsot at auction, including 1929, which could not have existed as the Domaine only started bottling in 1934. Mr. Ponsot flew to New York to ensure that the counterfeited bottles of his family domaine’s Clos St Denis, listed in the Acker Merall & Condit auction, would not appear at the auction, and yet... Laurent Ponsot of Domaine Ponsot worked closely with the FBI, which led to the arrest of Rudy Kurniawan on March 8 2012. And the rest is history. It is said that despite efforts to retrieve them, a large number of Rudy's counterfeited bottles are still on the market. Watch the 2016 movie "Sour Grapes" if you do not know the story. It is quite fascinating how he succeeded in doing such a "Tour de force"!

Cheers! Santé! 

Dom

📷 Credit: Lauri Vainio

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Wednesday, July 26, 2023

LeDomduVin: Interpreting the engravings and markings located in the punt or at the bottom of a wine bottle.

 

Do you like my punt by @ledomduvin 2023 (v2)




Interpreting the engravings and markings 
located in the punt or at the bottom
of a wine bottle.



In my previous job as a Wine Quality Control Director for nine years, I frequently received requests from people seeking my professional opinion, suggestions, or advice on specific aspects of the label or engravings on a particular bottle, often old and rare. 

Even though I left that position two years ago, I still receive occasional inquiries from people who may doubt the authenticity of some of their bottles and are seeking answers.  

When someone asks me a question, I prefer to respond privately. Yet, as I don't always have all the answers, I may need to research online, ask a specialist or consult books to find the information. Once I have the answer, I like to share it on my blog so others can benefit from my findings, particularly on obscure topics that are hard to find online.

I previously wrote a few posts on counterfeit and fake wine bottles, where I discussed the importance of bottle inspection and authentication, trying to answer as many of the questions most people may have (if interested, read them here, also here and here)  

In these posts, I highlighted the significance of codes, bottle numbers, dates, and other markings engraved in the punt or at the bottom of a wine bottle. However, I never wrote a complete post about these topics, and it would be beneficial to do so.

I am writing this post in response to some questions I received about the markings found on 1960s bottles of Petrus. In the posts mentioned above (the 3 links), I have written quite extensively about Petrus. However, in this post, I will summarize what I already wrote about Petrus and delve deeper into the topic of the engravings and markings in the punt and at the bottom of the bottle.  


The questions are regarding 2 separate case scenarios:  

  • A 1966 Petrus bottle with a bottle maker of "SG" at the "kick" that has a box around it. 
    • Has the label "SG" ever been present on a Petrus bottle from the 1960s or newer vintages?
  • A 1969 Petrus bottle with a barely legible mark on the punt and a strange marking on the bottom right-hand corner of the label that appears to be a speck of red at first glance but looks like a heart shape under a microscope. 
    • Is there a specific marking on the bottle of 1969 Petrus? 
    • Is there a heart shape red spot at the bottom right-hand corner of the label?  


Reminder: What is the "Punt"? 

You may have noticed that the person who asked the question used the word "kick", which I prefer to call "the punt". Both words can be used to designate "the indentation" at the bottom of the wine bottle (as seen in the illustration below). 




Wine Bottle Details by @ledomduvin 2023




"The punt" was initially created by glassblowers by pushing up the bottle's seam to enhance its stability, strength and integrity, preventing it from wobbling when placed upright.

Then throughout history, "the Punt" has been given other meanings and usages, like:

  • To ease the service of the wine, a spot to place your thumb while the rest of your fingers grab the base of the bottle while pouring it into a glass. 

  • To indicate the quality of the wine, the deeper, the better. Yet, it has never been proven. And nowadays, the depth of the punt does not seem to correlate with the quality of the wine whatsoever. It is just a bottle shape style, either standard from the manufacturer or at the client's request.  

  • To create an optical illusion that the wine bottle is bigger than it actually is. There again, difficult to tell when the bottle is full. And, when it is empty, well... no one cares about the punt, right?.  
  • To catch the falling sediment and allow them to easily gather at the bottom of the bottle. That may be true to a certain extent.  
  • To make the bottle sturdier and more pressure-resistant, especially for sparkling wines. That is true.  
  • To better organize and stack the bottle more efficiently, which is proven to be true when wineries stack their bottles on the ground, on shelves, on racks or in cages.   


Reading the "Punt" 

As you know, I like to draw and create images, collages and illustrations (and prefer doing things myself rather than taking someone else's work). So, as an image is worth a thousand words, here is an illustration to help you understand how to read the "punt" of the bottle.  



Reading the Punt by @ledomduvin 2023


Prelude

Before attempting to answer both cases, one thing must be said about Petrus: it is the most challenging and annoying wine to authenticate! Why? For decades, they have been inconsistent with their labels (colour, font, small details, etc...) and continue to be so (maybe a little less this past decade, but still...). 

The differences between the Petrus labels of the same vintage on 2 different bottles can sometimes be bewildering. Even for a guy with years of experience, like me, it can be very challenging to authenticate them and know whether they are real or fake or if only one is real and the other is fake. And if so, which one? How to differentiate them? (check the links above in the introduction to have the answer)

Like this example of "Petrus 1995 or Petrus 1995?" (picture below) that I described in a previous post (if interested, read it here). 



Petrus 1995 or Petrus 1995 by @ledomduvin 2022

 


And the most annoying thing is that Petrus will never answer questions. I have tried countless times, in vain. In the past 12 years, I have sent them emails with questions about the label (and even the bottle) variations for the same vintage, and I'm still waiting for an answer. 

Although I imagine details like these have probably been recorded somewhere, this may be due to their lack of knowledge or recollection (meaning they may not even know themselves or don't remember), especially for the older vintages that may have been released at different periods using slightly different labels printed using other printers, and maybe even printed for different markets.  

For example, let's take 1961 Petrus. Part of the stock was first released about 2 years after harvest (in 1963) with a specific label. The leftover was kept in reserve at the Chateau for later release. Depending on the release time, they may have changed the printer and some details on the label. 

Chateaux typically do not hold onto unused labels. Labels are ordered as needed and in specific quantities based on the number of bottles the chateau plan to release at a specific time. The remaining bottles are stored in the cellars without labels until an order is placed, which helps to prevent temptation and eventual theft both from within and outside of the chateaux. 

If labelled in the 70s or the 80s, the label will definitely present variations compared to the original. Even more, if printed later on, in the 1990s and 2000s, as the paper used was slightly different and the printing techniques too. Same if it was relabelled later due to lousy label conditions, etc...       

Like for example, these 3 bottles of Petrus 1961 present lots of differences on the labels (see picture below).  


Petrus 1961 label differences by @ledomduvin 2019 (v2)



Looking at these 2 pictures above, you better understand why Petrus is the most challenging and annoying wine to authenticate! 

If you do not have the correct references, as well as the know-how and necessary knowledge and experience, and unless you open the bottle to taste it, it can be challenging to differentiate a counterfeit from a real one sometimes or to even know which one is the real one if you end up mixing them.  

And, although annoying and inconvenient, Petrus (and other highly-coveted brands like DRC, etc..) do not answer questions about the details of their labels and bottles for security reasons. It is perfectly understandable when you know that, depending on the vintage, the average market price for a bottle of Petrus is between 3,000 and 6,000 Euros. Petrus is among the world's top 10 most coveted and most counterfeited wines, with DRC, Lafite Rothschild, Penfolds, etc... 

Therefore, better be discreet, not give any answers and refrain from divulging any information to anyone to prevent the leaking of valuable data and prevent counterfeiters from gaining access to these details. Caution is necessary.   


However, now that I have set the "ambience" and put things into perspective with Petrus, let's try to answer these questions. 😁👍🍷 

 


Petrus 1966 with a broken cork inside the neck by @ledomduvin 2019


1966 Petrus


The person wrote: A 1966 Petrus bottle with an "SG" bottle maker at the kick with a box around it. Has the label "SG" ever been present on a Petrus bottle from the 1960s or newer vintages?

Although I have bought, opened, tasted, prepared and served (and occasionally drunk) and inspected many bottles of Petrus in my 32 years career as Sommelier / Wine Buyer, including 1966 (and older), I did not necessarily take close pictures of the details on the labels and/or the bottles and therefore lack pieces of evidence to correctly answer this question.  

Searching online, I could not find any specific details about the punt of Petrus 1966. 

However, a quick search on French glass and bottle manufacturers providing Bordeaux bottles to the chateaux during the 1960s resulted in a short list of some significant wine bottle makers in France, including the following: 

1. Saverglass: Founded in 1897, Saverglass is a leading French glass manufacturer that produces high-quality bottles for various industries, including wine. 

2. O-I (Owens-Illinois): Originally an American company, O-I has been in France for many years. They are one of the largest glass container manufacturers globally and have supplied wine bottles to French winemakers during the 1960s. 

3. Saint-Gobain/Verallia: In 2010, the Packaging Sector of Saint-Gobain launched Verallia, a new international brand dedicated to manufacturing glass bottles and jars. However, Saint-Gobain has also produced glass bottles for the wine industry for over 3 centuries, besides providing materials distribution and services for construction companies. (***) 

4. Verreries Brosse: Founded in 1875, Verreries Brosse is a well-known French glass manufacturer specializing in creating glass containers for wine, spirits, and other beverages. 

5. BSN Glasspack: BSN Glasspack, now part of the Ardagh Group, was a significant player in the French glass packaging industry during the 1960s. They supplied wine bottles to wineries across France. 

These are a few examples of France's significant wine bottle makers during the 1960s. There were likely other smaller manufacturers and regional suppliers as well.


As mentioned, I don't currently possess a bottle of 1966 Petrus, and my online search yielded little information. However, I did come across an article that confirms that the initials "SG" embossed either on the side or inside the punt of the bottle refer to "Saint-Gobain." (*)

Therefore, the answer is yes regarding the presence of the "SG" label on Petrus bottles in the 1960s. Petrus used bottles manufactured by Saint-Gobain, which featured the letters "SG" embossed within the punt of the bottle during that time period.

I am unsure if the initials "SG" were embossed in a box or square shape on bottles of 1966 Petrus, as I do not have one to verify. Even though more recent vintages of Petrus do not feature a box around the "SG" initials, it is possible that older vintages may have had initials or logos embossed within a circle or square shape.


Saint-Gobain's website (**) states they have produced glass since 1665. In 1692, a factory was established in the village of Saint-Gobain in Picardy, a region north of Paris. This factory eventually became part of Saint-Gobain and gave its name to the company. 

Saint-Gobain is a significant company that operates in more than 60 countries. They are a global leader in light and eco-friendly construction and offer materials and services for both the construction and industrial markets, including glass for wine bottles. One of their essential business components is manufacturing glass containers such as bottles and jars. They are the second-largest producer of glass containers globally after Owens-Illinois, Inc. (O-I).


Talking about old markings embossed on bottles of Petrus, in a video about "Potentially Fake Petrus" bottles that I posted on YouTube about 3 years ago (see below), the bottle maker marking "CX" can clearly be seen at the bottom of the punt of the bottles from the late 1950s and early 1960s.  



 

I couldn't find any information online about "CX" being embossed on old bottles of Petrus or Bordeaux. Perhaps I should start taking pictures and create a library of Petrus bottle details for future reference.



To address the second part of the 1st inquiry regarding the continued usage of "SG" on recent vintages and to ensure accuracy in my response, I visited the wine cellar of one of the restaurants belonging to the company I am employed with. I took several photographs of different Petrus vintages for verification purposes: 1982, 1989 and 1990.


Let's start with the 1982 vintage.




I was very cautious when examining the Petrus 1982 bottle as it tends to sell for around 5,000 euros on average in the market, which is more than my wallet can afford. 😁👍🍷 






As you can see in the picture above and below, besides the ones from the mould, this particular bottle of 1982 Petrus has no specific markings on the punt of the bottle. 






Yet, it does have markings on the bottom side of the bottom. Not sure if you can clearly see it in the picture above, but the markings engraved on the bottle are the followings: 

  • The bottle maker marker: VOA (VOA- Verrerie d'Albi - France) (****)
  • Volume - 75cl
  • 55 mm (up to 63 mm) Gap length between the top of the bottle and the top of the wine fill level after filling exactly 75cl of wine in the bottle.
  • And the number 03 (to the right of 55 mm) (numbers on the punt usually correspond to various identification numbers, like the "year manufactured" or "mould identification number". As this is a bottle from the vintage 1982, the number "03" cannot be the year manufactured, so I'm assuming it is the "mould identification number" in that specific case.  




The Braille-like bumps on the heel and/or rings on the bottom are the bottle or the mould identification, readable by the inspection equipment for traceability (lot number, year of manufacture, code, etc...). Allowing for the defective lots and/or mould to be easily retrieved.  


Each bottle manufacturer has its own way of coding the bottle, and it would be too long to develop all the different codes, numbers and letters. Moreover, this post was just to give you an idea of how to read the punt. For more details, please refer to the website links in the "Sources & References" paragraph at the bottom of this post.   

Now let's answer the second batch of questions about Petrus 1969. 



Petrus 1969 (edited)


Petrus 1969


The person wrote: A 1969 Petrus bottle with a barely legible mark on the punt and a strange marking on the bottom right-hand corner of the label that appears to be a speck of red at first glance but looks like a heart shape under a microscope. 

    • Is there a specific marking on the bottle of 1969 Petrus? 
As far as I know, there is no specific marking on the punt of the 1969 Petrus bottle.  

    • Is there a heart shape red spot at the bottom right-hand corner of the label?  

There is no heart shape at the bottom right-hand corner of the 1969 Petrus label. One of the owners probably put it there as a joke due to the vintage connotation.    


Voila! That's All, Folks! Stay tuned for more posts coming soon. In the meantime, as always, take good care of yourself and your loved ones, stay safe and enjoy life as much as you can while you can! 

Cheers! Santé!

Dom 

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Sources & References: 

(*) Article mentioning the "SG" engraved/marked on bottles: 

https://glassbottlemarks.com/s-g-mark-recent-modern-glass-containers-saint-gobain-verallia-north-america/

https://sha.org/bottle/makersmarks.htm


(**) Saint-Gobain history: https://www.saint-gobain.com/en/group/our-history

(***) Verallia: https://fr.verallia.com/s/reconnaitre-une-bouteille-verallia?language=en_US

(****) If you are looking for specific "Glass bottle marks", the first link is the Emhart database of worldwide punt marks (sorted by alphabetical order), which is probably the best reference you can find online: 

https://emhartglass.com/sites/default/files/publications/2020-10/BR0068%20-%20BEG%20Punt%20Marks%20Guide.pdf

Other interesting websites: 

https://glassbottlemarks.com/bottlemarks-5/

https://sha.org/bottle/machinemadedating.htm


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